Huey, I in no way mean to cast doubt on your information as it applies to you. For me, however, the tighten to the bottom thread technique is helpful, but it does not lead directly and rapidly to wheels that have the specific tension and tension balance that I desire. I do use a tension meter (I know, that's the source of my problem. ) and rigorously check every spoke all through the process for balance with all the others. Other folks talk about how a wheel just falls into true and proper tension, but that has never been my experience even with very nearly perfect parts. I have built many, many sets of wheels and find it takes me about an hour to get each wheel from laced to my idea of nearly perfect. No, if I were doing this for a living, I wouldn't make any money at that rate. But it is, after all, a hobby so I don't mind. Just saying that your experience is one thing, but there is a wide range of building rates over the larger population.