Originally Posted by
photogravity
I've said this before and I think it bears repeating. I'm not sold on the idea of groups/gruppos. BITD, manufacturers did not use groups. For instance, Williams cranks, GB stem, Cinelli handlebar, Phillips pedals, Sturmey rear hub, Bayliss Wiley front hub, Dunlop rims, Terry cable guides, etc... The modern concept of groups, alatmo, is somewhat mystifying.
I agree, somewhat. I don't want to start a debate here but I think shipmano was instrumental in the notion of group and the SLR and STI thing was in part to make you use shimano brakes if you were going to buy shimano derailleurs and shifters. I believe there was a lawsuit over this in the late '80s.
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