I checked out the Ingria site and based on the vague technical info, my first thought was that these were probably low end aluminum frames like you see on ebay for $150. But looking at the pics, they've got them dressed up with Miche cranks and other decent components, so maybe they're not so bad. Would be curious to hear from anyone who owns one. And fwiw, the Firestarter is definitely the better looking of the two.

Most importantly, welcome to the forum, Drastry!