Mine are both set pretty flat. The black one in front is brand new. I don't "slide around" on it.

I always find it odd when people complain about exactly the same product I have, and about a problem that I've never experienced. I've found both of these seats to be comfortable right out of the box. I think they're both set at about level, and there have been no issues whatsoever. (I ride 200 - 300 miles a week, almost all hills). Yes, these seats are hard, threatening to become uncomfortable quickly. Odd thing, though - the threat never materializes. I just ride mine and don't think about the seats anymore.

Buttloads better than riding on any man-made material. It's the leather.