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Old 08-08-14 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by noglider
Comparing specs of two bikes doesn't give you the whole picture. You can't compare the quality of a bike you see in person with that of a bike you see on the interwebs.
It goes a bit further than than. I will say that I've now bought 3 bikes from BD, to my shame. Two of them have been Terry Symmetrys which BD had on clearance. One of those is for home and the other is to leave at a daughter's house in Arizona. I don't have a problem with the Terrys as the bikes were spec'd by Terry and have good stuff on them. The one for home, after complete parts swapping is down to 20 lbs and is a sweet little bike. The other one is slightly heavier but is still a pretty good bike.

The problem I had with the BD bike was the one I bought for me. I got a Windsor as a parts donor for a frame I purchased from Dean in Boulder. I have to say that once I got the bike and started taking it apart, I was very disappointed. The steer tube on the fork was steel with carbon blades. It was a boat anchor but a fancy boat anchor. The brakes were poor and I didn't use them. The wheels were Vuelta and serviceable but heavy. They were 20 spoke wheels that I replaced with 32 hole White Industry/Pilar spokes/Velocity A-23 and dropped 2 lbs. The "carbon" post was a wrapped aluminum post that was only "carbon" cosmetically. The stem was too short for the frame and the shape of the handlebars was just horrible (not really BD's fault but still...).

The real kicker was that the cups for the bottom bracket were so tight that I had to destroy them to remove them which made them too unsightly for my Dean (vanity is a evil mistress). The crank was a FSA but I couldn't find replacement cups locally.

I used the rear derailers, the shifters and the wheels. I couldn't use the fork because it didn't fit (not BD's fault). That's about $400 (retail) of parts that I paid $900 for and I ultimately ditched the wheels. I did reassemble the bike and donated to a local co-op so I got a little tax benefit from the bike but certainly not what I paid for it.

Now, I haven't bought a complete bike since 2003 except the BD bike but if I want another donor bike, I'll go to a shop and buy one that I can really look at.
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