OK. This thread had so many political rants, I very nearly gave OP an infraction for starting this thread off-topic. Anyone wishing to continue discussing everything else besides topic, here's your thread (now in P&R):
http://www.bikeforums.net/politics-r...l#post17042128
Any questions, PM me. Don't post it here. Take it to PM. NOT in this thread, please. Dammit, keep this thread on topic.
Thank you.
--Juha, a Forum Mod