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PaulRivers, this is not a car free advocacy thread. I drive a car sometimes. Sometimes I even enjoy it. And for sure, it's much comfier in bad weather. Well, usually. As much as you ride, that's fine, and it's also fine to like driving. The thread is about how much we like bike commuting better. I'm very grateful I don't have to drive much any more. Driving irritates me most of the time. Now most of my driving is (1) between the city and the country and (2) short errands in the country, where driving makes sense. I even do some errands on bike there.