Originally Posted by
English3Speed
Realistically, you need to decide what's important to you.
The Guru looks like a nice recreational bicycle with custome painting etc, but doesn't seem to be designed to mount racks, fenders, etc. I don't know your parking situation; commuters in Philadelphia wouldn't want to leave a $3,000+ bicycle unattended in a parking garage all day.
Most commuters I've met would pick the Marinoni (easy to set up for commuting/touring, decent geometry, doesn't look expensive or flashy reducing theft risk) and wouldn't even think of the Guru to commute in the city, but you know your situation (parking, preference in bicycles) better than we do. If you really want the Guru, don't start with the Marinoni
The Guru was just a wish type bike, I can bring the bike inside my office so theft is not really an issue for me, my issue is budget. I also have another thread about a used Kona, but that seems expensive.
I don't mind the upgrades if the frame is worthy of upgrades...does that make sense?