Thanks for the suggestions folks. The lower-end Garmins without maps would probably suit my needs. I don't care a lot about the form factor. It can ride in my pocket if I can't figure out how to hang it off the bike somehow. I never thought of a smartphone. I just don't use a phone enough to justify the expense. My old "flip top" does me well with the four or five times a year that I turn it on and use it. I don't really need maps. Twenty years ago a buddy of mine had a hand held Garmin (I think) that we used hunting. Nothing fancy. No map if I remember correctly. No color on the screen. It just told you where you were, how far you have been, basic stuff like that. I might be wrong, but I think all it gave you was coordinates so that you could look up where you were on a map that you were (hopefully) carrying. That would be a bit crude for my needs. I don't need too many steps up from that, though. Just losing the separate map would be fine with me.