Originally Posted by
joeyduck
The surly lht with kids seat mount, water, lights, pump and tool kit is 36 pounds.
The 1999 rocky mountain turbo with Eaton ultralight and full ultegra, water, pump and kit was 22 pounds.
On the same uphill giving it all while catching green lights I am about 30 second faster.
My Surly Pacer "rain/beater" bike with a rack, rackpack, heavy 700-28 tires, tools, pump, etc. weighs about 35 pounds ready to ride and my Litespeed Tuscany without most of that stuff but with the essential water and tools is about 21 pounds all-up. The subjective difference in feel and objective difference in average speed over my typical 30 mile hilly route is significant. However, that's a 14 pound or about 8% increase in total rider+bike weight and that plus the heavy, sluggish tires on the Surly are certainly enough to notice.