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Old 09-08-14 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Gramercy
I think average speed is generally fine if you're doing a loop so net elevation change is 0. As you go up an incline slowly it takes a while, but descending will make up for speed. I notice my average speed is usually around 17mph no matter if I do a flat ride or a hilly ride. ...
But the downhills on a zero net elevation loop can never make up the time lost on uphills, not without putting out greater power. So your total time will always be greater on a 20 mile hilly ride than it would be on a 20 mile flat ride, given the same power, and your average speed lower. Maybe you're more disciplined on your hilly ride, and don't waste power for example.

Back to OP, I can understand wanting to include stopped time because the effort with a lot of resting isn't really the same as when you never stop. But the time you're waiting at a light doesn't say anything about your moving speed either - so I can't think of one as "better" or more accurate than the other. Just two different metrics.
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