I plumb forgot about the bar. I already switched to Sram grip shifters on account of an old thumb injury (ancient bike wreck from a past life) makes thumb shifters painful. I do like the fact too that grip shifters are less particular about staying in adjustment (what ats I'm going to replace the grips with Ergons or a knockoff thereof, and a pair of bar end buckhorns (??), as much as anything to have a place to hang mirrors off of in a place other than bar ends.

Mike