Originally Posted by rpenmanparker

I hear you. But when the weights start to come down, I think caring is more important. Why was the heavier weight important before, but isn't necessary now? That kind of thing.

The best example of the issue is someone like @chaadster taking the lightest TL tire that Hutch makes and wanting to compare it to a standard like the Conti GP4000S II. That just might make sense. Or it might not. That ultralight TL tire may be more like a track/TT tire and more comparable to much lighter Conti tires like the Attack and Force. I wouldn't want to run a tire like that on the street every day. The TL advocates want them to be lighter so badly, they are jumping on any example of a light TL tire, whether it is purposed similarly to the tubed clincher in question or not.