When I got into road biking a few years ago I got a Brooks B17 saddle. At first I kept sliding down on the saddle. Then I tilted the saddle up a little too much and it kinda hurt down there ( if you know what I mean). I just kept changing the tilt of the saddle until I just stopped sliding down on it. The new Brooks B17 is kinda slippery and shiny so it's easy to slide down on it. I do like the Brooks very much on my road bikes. But they take some break-in time. For bikes ridden with more upright torso posture, like hybrids, I use wider softer saddles.