Originally Posted by
Jiggle
Actually, I do.
The lightest ISP topper I can find is the New Ultimate at 81g. That chart expects me to believe that the extra carbon for the ISP attached to the frame AND the topper only weigh 48g more than the frameset without a seatpost?
That is ridiculous. Giant is lying on that chart, and
they are well known for outright lying on weight numbers.
Roadbike.de weighed a medium TCR Advanced ISP at 996 g. Add 100g for a topper and that's 1100g. Not impressive. Certainly no "weight savings", lol.
I think we can agree, that at least in Giant's case, weight savings is not a selling point for their ISP design.
Thats really selective reading. Giant published its weight based on a medium and obviously they state in that thread those frames that were weighed were ML and Large.
reading the complete thread there are arguments for and against if Giants numbers are correct. But that can be said for almost every single marketing piece out out by any company.
Also along in that thread the idea that how can Giants carbon be better then toray. No clue where that came from, since giant has specifically said their carbon comes from Toray in raw form.
anyhow just pointing out that the lies you state, really was never confirmed. Selective reading at best.