I'm currently between these 2:

Castelli Estremo:
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Castelli Diluvio Deluxe:
Castelli | An Unfair Advantage - Product details

I already have a small inner liner glove for warmer fall weather but am looking to ride a bit more into the NY winter so I'm looking for something that covers the wrists more like these. I'm still not sure how much cold I can handle out there but, for gloves in the east coast, does anyone have recommendations between these two? I suppose I could just layer my inner glove under the Diluvio for additional warmth but I just don't want to be stuck in a situation where I wish I would have gotten warmer gloves... or colder ones if the Estremo's get too hot.

Thanks