Originally Posted by acidfast7

I usually agree with you but this is a severe stretch of the truth. I saw them everywhere in Germany (usually at the discount sporting goods places ... think German-version of REI). They didn't seem as well-built or well-option as CUBE or STEVENS bikes for the same money.

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Originally Posted by acidfast7

I would say that a discount bike is anything less than €1000. I'd consider REI a discount store in terms out outdoor goods stores.

I also don't think that $550 is justified for a frame, when one can get something from TourTerrain for the same price.

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price list: http://www.en.tout-terrain.de/filead...h_2015_web.pdf