Originally Posted by acidfast7

I've found denim quite poor for wear ... even raw denim. I found someone in Germany to sew new crotches into my pants for €5/pair, which is quite nice though (colour-matched and everything.)

Rip-stop material has been much better/spandex.

I've got about 600 rides on my usual riding bottoms with no sign of wear for €15 from a German coffee online shop. Far superior to denim, IMHO.