Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN

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If your concern is that you can't use a kickstand, Surly has big concerns about the kickstands immediately behind the bottom bracket. But the Greenfield ones that clamp on near the rear dropout are less likely to damage a frame. But I still do not tighten the screws too much on my Greenfield and I use blue loctite to keep the screws from falling out. I suspect however that Surly would still have a problem with the Greenfield if you asked them.

The photo is not a Surly, I am only using this photo as an example of the kickstand I am talking about.