The only wacky thing about that is that they're not $145 each, which some people think is a fair price for an electro forged river bottom dweller. They look to be at the end point of salvage, but still recoverable. I've done some pretty miraculous work on the lower end Schwinns. I did a few until I realized $130-$140 is the top end price around here. IE: Not worth the effort.,,,,BD