Originally Posted by
Italuminium
thanks for the link again. It was mentioned earlier on, but it's still a screaming deal.
Velo Routier 650B Randonneur Bicycle | Cycles Toussaint
That's an attractive consumer-direct price for this presumably Taiwan-built bike. They're sold out of stock (except for XL frame-only), and their frame geometry link is dead at the moment.
It would be interesting to try out such a bike, though I wonder how much that the "low-trail" geometry takes away from the bike's potential as an off-roading bike.
If the head angle is 71-72 degrees, at least a more heavily-raked fork might be used to replace the 2.2lb stocker, to increase the trail and stability, but for carrying heavy loads in front it should be excellent as-is.
I took a long (road training) test-ride on a customer's 21.5lb Bianchi cyclocross bike the other day, and I was surprised by how fast the bike felt with the new Michelin 34mm (actual) tires that I had installed. I had also added an 11-34t, 10s MTB cassette for versatility, adding a 9s XT derailer to work with the bike's original 10s Ultegra STI shifters.
I liken the bike's stability to some of the Schwinns that I ride, but which do not feel fast, even with 1-1/8" road tires. Stability is a very under-rated thing!