Old 11-23-14 | 04:19 PM
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From: Joisey
Just checked Velo-Routier, looks like their stock is low/gone primarily on complete bikes, but frameset-only stock is good.

I'm just working my way through the low-/med-/hi-trail thing, not ready to sign off on low-trail supremacy at the moment. But one of my relatively recent revelations (say that 5 times fast!) has been how fast and smooth 30-37mm rubber can feel on the road, yet still not beat me up on trails. Tires that wide used to feel sluggish on pavement, while also being punishing on trails.

BTW, old news at this point, but I did mistakenly refer to my Ocean Air Rambler earlier in this thread as a lugged frame, even though it ain't. Tig-welded, with lug-looking headtube reinforcements. My brain wasn't really paying attention to my fingers, or vice-versa....

Originally Posted by dddd
Velo Routier 650B Randonneur Bicycle | Cycles Toussaint

...They're sold out of stock (except for XL frame-only), and their frame geometry link is dead at the moment.

...I took a long (road training) test-ride on a customer's 21.5lb Bianchi cyclocross bike the other day, and I was surprised by how fast the bike felt with the new Michelin 34mm (actual) tires that I had installed...I liken the bike's stability to some of the Schwinns that I ride, but which do not feel fast, even with 1-1/8" road tires. Stability is a very under-rated thing!
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