Originally Posted by
Steamer
FWIW, Willie's worst 200K routes have about 12 to 13K of climbing IIRC. I am pretty sure anything with 20K is going to be a 300 or 400K (or even a 600K).
Still, a lot for a shorter ride
Most of the permanents and brevets around here have climbing rates somewhere between 50 and 95 feet per mile (6,000 to 12,000 feet per 200K).
Oh yeah, Pennsylvania has those "mountain" thingies. Willie would know better, but I don't think that's the place for a velomobile.