Jim thank you I have the comps. Not very impressed by them but they were older than I thought. Just ordered a set of xpedo twins hope there better or going to have to go back with swimanos. (Destroyed the cast axle housing on one pedal of the dx's)

Feitsbob, I got tough skin and shoot back. don't mind some jabbing. Maybe we can do it again someday old man. But thanks for your insight and last post. I have a couple of other Ritchey products that have been a bonus to have on my bike.