I've used Marmot Precip pants and jacket for years and years.....Work great,.... $100 for both if you look around.....2.5 layer material,which means the scrim is attached to the membrane....3 layer the scrim is seperate.

I woundn't wear Showers Pass stuff if you gave it to me....What makes the Chinese people that sew Showers Pass stuff better than everyone else?

They make nice stuff.....It ain't THAT nice.If I'm paying 3-4-500 dollars for rain gear....Should I really have to worry about buying another at some point?

That's more than I paid for my first nice bicycle.....That's more than the down payment on my first house!...Still have both of those...