Originally Posted by
Raiden
Well, there are about 14 hours of darkness in Californa per day right now. Kinda hard to ride in the morning or evening (those times that bookend the 'middle of the day when you do stuff with people') without riding in the dark

Isn't a group ride doing 'stuff with people'

I commute 10 hrs during the week in the dark these days so skip any opportunities for dark group rides. There are no group rides around here in the dark that I'm aware of. Perhaps it's because I'm old and know too many retired guys who are allergic to dark.