Originally Posted by
no motor?
I got a jacket from Foxwear that has softshell material in the front and fleece in the back that isn't completely waterproof nor completely breathable, but it's enough of a compromise for me.

Several years ago I contacted Foxwear and told them I wanted the warmest pants they could provide.
They said they could do that in any color I wanted, as long as it was gray.

I gave them my measurements (I have a *very* long inseam) and ordered.
They sent me pants in a softshell material with a *perfect* fit; Not too tight; Not too loose.
They are so warm that I don't wear them over 50F, else my legs sweat, even though I'm only using cycling undershorts with them.
I was so happy with them, I was planning to order a softshell jacket.
Then this past fall I was walking through Costco and saw a bin full of softshell jackets, perfect for cycling.
$20/each.
I'm sold on softshell fabric for winter cycling.
It is lighter and warmer than anything else I've used.