Originally Posted by
spectastic
I've ridden both clipless and platform pretty extensively. on a lot of my group rides, I've shown up in toe clips and hiking shoes, and people thought I was really strong to still be able to keep up. but to be honest, I don't find any loss in performance riding platform unless I'm accelerating or in an all out sprint, where the upstroke actually plays a role in my pedaling output. And while this is important in competitive situations, I don't believe this is important for casual riding or touring. even when climbing, most of that effort is spinning, until the rider stands up and starts pulling the pedals on the upstroke. So I felt compelled to find some evidence supporting clipless in pedaling efficiency over platform pedals.
Here's a video of them testing clipless and platform
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNedIJBZpgM
Granted, this experiment with only 1 data point is not too convincing. So I pulled this off of another forum that someone posted. It indicates that while the upstroke does play a role in clipless setups, it actually decreases your mechanical efficiency, which support the idea that the upstroke is only relevant when you're trying to beat someone up a climb or to a finishline/corner - it's not sustainable in a long ride.
What do you think? I feel like the whole argument that clipless being more efficient than platform pedals, while true in certain situations, is mere exaggerated hyperbole in most other situations. Foot retention is also important for a variety of reasons, but platform pedals can do that very well with toe clips (imo) for road riding anyway.
Any chance they factored in safety?
Having spent most of my younger life riding and racing in toe clips, I've seen a lot of broken legs and ankles from clips because the foot does not come out of the pedal.
Platforms? I was riding with a guy and we were climbing a hill and he was on platforms. It was a little wet. His foot slipped off the front of the pedal, drove his toes into the ground, the crank arm came up and hit him at the top of his ankle snapping it in half.
And as far as exaggeration, toe clips with a cleat and clipless are about the same with my many miles but unscientific study. It's safety.