Still no reply. What bothers me is that I have bought from this guy before. A few months ago I got the Pelissier hubbed wheels, a couple sets of Cyclone M·II, and a set of Mafac Racer brakes a while back at a swap meet. He hinted a little at "helping me out" on that deal. IMHO that doesn't oblige me to buy this frame. Judgement in a few hours, if he bothers to show up that is. We'll see I guess. If that is a hole, and the shifter mounts are mismatched or crooked, then the case is closed.,,,,BD