I have a Brooks flyer that is extremely comfortable, I frequently do 40+ mile rides on it without padded shorts and have no pain at all afterward. I gifted myself a Cambium C17 for Christmas and rode it a couple of times and don't find it to be anywhere near as comfortable as the flyer, I'm hoping that changes, but as attractive as the all weather aspect is I regret the purchase. I also have a Selle Anatomica that I find to be quite uncomfortable, at least when compared to the flyer. I keep thinking I'll CL the Selle but never get around to it.