I agree that it's annoying that bike manufacturers don't list weights; but I also agree with dynaryder who says that listing weights varies and that there would be cheating. You can always ask the dealer to weigh the bike for you and generally they're happy to do that; however, it would be good that some weight range would be available. It seems to me that a weight standard could be set - a medium size frame with pedals, etc. It seems funny to me that bike manufacturers are happy to give you all kinds of specs and geometry (much of which means very little to most buyers) but not include weight. I think they know that weight is perceived by many customers to be highly important (whether it is or not is another debate) and they don't want to gdet into that marketing game (I don't blame them).