Originally Posted by
Stucky
Actually, I find the Venge very comfortable; as I do the Klein. My point is just that since the same thing can be achieved with an old AL bike (albeit, a very well-designed, well-made AL bike) it's not the CF material that is doing anything magic; but rather how a bike is designed and constructed. Both bikes are very stiff, and yet ride nicely- even with 23mm tires.
You're not riding my bike, so how would you know how it rides? Generalizations lead to stereotype lead to rumors and so on and so on. Your experience with carbon fiber bikes has nothing to do with my experience an I've ridden the steel bikes, the aluminum bikes, and the carbon fiber. I wouldn't make the generalizations that you do. They don't match up with my experience.