Originally Posted by
rustguard
I just checked the surly website and the chain stays on lht are over an inch shorter than the km, thats a big difference for pannier strike yeah? also load spread? The OP specified "loaded" touring, Unless you get one dirt cheap I'd think you should just get the lht. I have only seen the thorns online but I cant see any similarities with geometry.
I typed this the wrong way around the Long Haul Trucker is obviously the longer stays. But no one seemed to be confused and appeared to know what i was talking about.
The KM has 431mm. in my experience this is the minimum for comfortable heel clearence. 460 of the LHT allows you to move your load forward or use grocery panniers with ease. Thumbs up.
As to the 32 hole rolhof. it maybe that at the time of this thread they were only availiable in 32 hole. this does ring a bell. but I have never owned one.