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Old 01-29-15, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by whitemax
Dude, you speak with the jawbone of an ass. "The fact is Greg Lemond was hardly clean...." Where do you get your "facts"? Please cite us your source. And it was lead shot, not iron shot, which definitely will leach into the body.
Me thinks you should take long hard look in the mirror slick.

Notice the dates in this section below and try and tell me Lemond was clean and beating others who were doping. Yeah right. Lemond doped no doubt about it. Armstrong's era just took doping to the next level and when one got caught they were offered deals to turn in the others. Doping is still going on today just as it went on during Lemond's day. By the way genius I was not talking about him being shot but rather his excuse for why he suddenly went from also ran in a race to world beater by saying he was given B-12 shots and Iron shots. Sorry but that dog don't hunt.

Notice also the date for EPO use and deaths attributed to EPO in the late 1980's. Gee was that not during part of the Greg Lemond era. Are you really still going to try and pass off that Greg Lemond was able to beat cyclists using EPO?
Cycling
Cycling plays a central role in the explosion of stimulant use in sport after
World War Two. Ludwig Prokop (1970: 46) describes cycling competitions of
that era as 'special hotbeds of doping.' Of 25 urine samples taken from riders
in a 1955 race, five were positive for stimulants. In the 1960 Rome Olympic
Games, Knud Jensen, a 23-year-old Danish cyclist, collapsed during
competition and died. Autopsy results revealed the presence of
amphetamines (Donohoe & Johnson, 1986). During the thirteenth leg of the
1967 Tour de France, English cyclist Tom Simpson, 29, collapsed and died.
His autopsy showed high levels of methamphetamine, 'a vial of which had
been found in his pocket at the time of his death' (Gilbert, 1969b: 37). The
impact of Simpson's death was extensive, in part because 'this was the first
doping death to be televised' (Donohoe & Johnson, 1986: 8). His death
substantially added to the mounting pressure on the IOC and member
federations to establish doping control programs, which they did at the end of
1967 (Ferstle, 2000). One year later another cyclist, Yves Mottin, died from
'excessive amphetamine use' two days after winning a race (Todd & Todd,
2001:69).
Tests conducted on Belgian cyclists in 1965 showed that 37 per cent of
professionals and 23 per cent of amateurs were using amphetamines, while
reports from Italy showed that 46 per cent of professional cyclists tested
positive for doping (Donohoe & Johnson, 1986). In 1967 Jacques Anquetil, a
five-time winner of the Tour de France, stated:
For 50 years bike racers have been taking stimulants. Obviously
we can do without them in a race, but then we will pedal 15 miles
an hour [instead of 25]. Since we are constantly asked to go
faster and to make even greater efforts, we are obliged to take
stimulants (qf. Gilbert, 1969b: 32).
Longtime team masseur for professional cycling, Willy Voet,
summarised the past forty years of doping in cycling by describing the three
drug eras of the sport: amphetamines in the 1960s and 1970s, anabolic
steroids and cortisone in the 1980s, and, thereafter, hGH and erythropoietin
(EPO) (Swift, 1999). In fact, there is strong speculation that more than a
dozen deaths of elite cyclists that took place the late 1980s were the result of
the use of EPO (Ramotar, 1990; Fisher, 1991).
The breadth and depth of the level of doping in the cycling world were
exposed to full public view in 1998 when Voet was arrested by French
customs police for transporting performance-enhancing drugs. Voet began
detailing the use of drugs in cycling, and a large-scale investigation by both
French and Italian authorities, as well as by a number of journalists, ensued.
The results of these investigations implicated many of the top teams and
riders in the sport as part of a highly organised, sophisticated and long-lived
doping scheme (USA Today, 1998d: 3C; Swift, 1999). Just hours before the
2000 Tour de France was to begin, three cyclists failed a mandatory EPO test
and were expelled from competition (King5.com, 2000). Perhaps the
magnitude of this problem in cycling is best summarised by Daniel Delegove,
the presiding judge of the doping trial of France's cycling superstar Richard
Virenque. After hearing compelling evidence of widespread doping, Judge
Delegove said, These are not racers, they are pedaling test tubes' (Ford,
2000: 1).
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