Originally Posted by
bmcphx
I'm confused at how a tall head tube equals "reasonable saddle to bar drop". That's backward. My trek had one of those hilariously tall head tubes and I had to run a negative 17 degree stem to get an even remotely low bar and it was still like driving a mac truck.
I'm confused that you're actually confused about what I said. Look at the Torelli. That's a reasonable saddle to bar drop with no spacers. How much lower would someone who doesn't race in the Pro Tour realistically need the drops to be? Obviously if you're someone who likes your bars a foot lower than your saddle it would not be for you.