Originally Posted by spare_wheel

Oh please. I ride my 19 lb carbon fiber bikes in street clothes. I park them everywhere. I don't particularly worry about them being stolen. And I routinely transport 40 lbs of booze and groceries on flimsy crabon.

I hate baskets and panniers for shopping. If its something light I will simple carry it. If its something that can fit in my massive german ortlieb backpack I put it in the bag. If its too heavy or large to fit in the bag I take my shopping bike. Nevertheless, I use my shopping bike about 12 times a year at most. I could easily replace the shopping bike with an e-car 2 go.

My point is not to say that everyone should be like me. My point is that I find it divisive, unhelpful, and ridiculous for people who become enamored with the north american copenhamsterdam subculture to judge others who have different utilitarian or aesthetic sensibilities.

So I'm different from you but *not whatever*. I love seeing people ride their dutchies or their 16 lb track bikes to bars/stores/restaurants/entertainment equally.