Originally Posted by
erig007
That's why i usually avoid those tyre traction dependance moments if i can and it usually is just fine most of the time (no lean, no hard braking and only from the rear, no unecessary steering....)
My near fall event this winter was due to ice forming everywhere including in the middle of the street under the snow that lie in between the left and right car's wheels. It was steep from the middle and not flat. Without stud on that was fun

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That looks like pure fun. I really only worry about black ice during a turn at speed because in that situation you are going down regardless of your pedal or shoe choice.