Originally Posted by
Hypno Toad
Name just one source of liquid water in the over night hours when ambient temps are below 0f, besides car exhaust, that would cause ice to form at intersections?? Without another source of liquid water, you have nothing to create ice on the road surface.
and damnit hypno toad, quit getting sucked into this idiotic and pointless thread... I'm such a moron.
I have named a source of liquid water. See post 161. Depending on the starting and ending temperature, the amount of water that air can carry varies widely and in a nonlinear fashion. Air at the freezing point can hold 4 g/cubic meter. Air at 0°F can hold 1g/ cubic meter. The water has to go somewhere.
Originally Posted by
Hypno Toad
Come to the Twin Cities and we will give you a real-life demonstration (-10f this morning) - absent that, this conversation is pointless, you don't believe the people that live in these conditions or the documentation that proves our point. You don't believe anything but yourself... cool, bye.
You can see where I live. We are no strangers to winter weather. I've seen real-life demonstration of winter for many years. You can't show me a "real life" demonstration of car exhaust freezing on a road way at an intersection because it can not happen. Something else is happening but the car exhaust isn't causing it.
The conversation with you is indeed pointless because it is devolving into insults made only by you. If you don't agree with my calculations, do you own. Show me where I am wrong. Otherwise, at this point, you are doing what you accused me of...being a troll.