Originally Posted by
grolby
Yes, it is worth noting that I am 125 lbs, even a couple pounds less when I am in peak racing trim, so I can afford to hammer on things a bit more. That said: I have ridden carbon forks on all kinds of surfaces with no problem, and seen full carbon bikes ridden by people much heavier than me subjected to the same treatment. No problems. And I've had my share of damage to poorer-quality parts. Just for example, even at my weight, I've had poor experiences with the durability of Velocity rims. I just don't think the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) is really warranted. Remember, most of the broken carbon you've seen is lightly built to begin with, since most of it is aimed at competitive or sporting-focused riders where weight is a major priority in design. A carbon fork designed specifically for touring would probably be built a bit more heavily and wouldn't cause me to lose any sleep at all.
It is true that carbon is more likely to break when subjected to traumatic stresses like a heavy impact. From everything I've seen, this almost always happens as a result of a wreck, rather than causing one. Of course other failures happen, but I've also seen failures in metal parts that led to accidents. From my perspective, the fact that carbon might be more likely to break in a big crash is more of a financial concern than a safety issue. Once you're wrecking hard enough to break a carbon bike, you've got bigger problems. And I would really recommend that you check over ANY bike that you crash on, whatever it is made out of. Even steel can break under hard enough impacts. It's even more likely with cheaper frames and forks that might have flaws in the welds or brazing, or with high-end thin-walled steels.
Well I don't think it's surprising that different people would have different experiences. I put a lot more miles into training and racing than I ever did into touring - we're talking an order of magnitude here, maybe more. The message I'm trying to send is that carbon fiber is perfectly capable of taking the abuse that most any rider can throw at it. I say this as a guy who rides and races on steel frames with carbon forks.
That doesn't mean I'm saying you all should go replace your steel touring bikes with carbon fiber. But I think a carbon touring fork is probably just fine.
I generally agree, except the part in bold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xreZdUBqpJs
Excluding MTB's, if anybody wants to see the durability of a Carbon 'road' type bike, go watch UCI CX race, bunnyhops, gnarly descents, crashes, etc. Much more intense that what a touring bike would see IMHO. I think a touring bike sees a higher constant stress, but as far as maximal stress is concerned, I think a cross bike has everything beat when ridden by a high level rider.
As an example of how overbuilt carbon parts 'CAN BE', many guys use carbon tubular ROAD wheels, before the CX specific stuff was in vogue. The DuraAce tubulars Sven Nys uses are low spoke count and he raced on them for YEARS with no problems.....it's a road wheel, not designed for bunnyhops or offroad riding but held up great and was considered a go-to wheel for many A racers.
ENVE forks are certified for up to 350 lbs FYI.