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rumrunn6, I found that
my boot-ish shoes do just fine. I got them extra large, and even with two pairs of socks and extra insoles, I still have extra room in them. Perhaps the rubber toe tip helps keep the wind off. I didn't try riding with these until recently. I was using cycling shoes and had covered the fronts with duct tape. The duct tape didn't help, or it didn't help enough. These shoes are good. I sacrifice the cleats, but it's not a big sacrifice for me. My pedals are SPD on one side and so-called platform on the other side.