I had a conversation with a friend who was pretty excited about a CL bike. He was after me to tell him what I thought about it, and when I saw the picture I told him it was to big for him. He asked my how I knew, and I told him it was much too big for me and he was only an inch or two taller.

When he explained he had no idea about how a bike should fit, we had a conversation about bike fit after that.

I also intend to never watch the CL Killer.