Originally Posted by
cale
Just an observation, these bikes look pretty specialized for a bike whose use will be "casual/exercise". Titanium bikes typically appeal to buyers that are interested in extreme long-term durability and long-distance comfort. Neither of which is in your post. You could get 95% of what either of these bikes offer in a $1,000 Motobecane Fantom Cross Outlaw
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Cale
Yes I did look at that bike but it looks like the shimano on that bike are below the 105 level and/or outdated. So figured might as well at least try to get newer 105s since I am already spending quite a bit.