Thanks for the input! I decided to go with the select. I like that it is undyed so I can let it develop it's own color patina over time, that the leather is thicker and from cows that may have been treated better (organic) has the nice copper rivets and comes with goodies (cover, proofide) and for just 20 bucks more than the special and 30 bucks more than the usual price for the standard (cover and proofide alone would've cost a bit over $20). Now I just need to keep the thing from getting stolen like my last one! Last one was a b17 preaged that came with a bike, the entire bike was lifted. I enjoyed that one so I have high hopes.