Francis- It wasn't you that I was talking about directly. But your reply did fall into the radiated zone of my comment.

I have a frame in my basement right now to do a repair of a repair. The stay top fractured just behind the sloping plate's leaving the lug. The rider took it to a friend and got it brazed together with no added reinforcement or extra filler. Didn't take long for the crack to return. This time the rider was looking out for it and the stay is still attached by the top plate's thickness only. This will make my repair that much easier as the locating/alignment is already established (and yet to be documented on the surface plate).

But this is just one more example of a down and dirty job that didn't address the issue fully and didn't last for long. After a while of seeing this kind of get by repair I just don't bother to even suggest this sort of thing. Yes it's my standards but if I'm holding the torch it's my choice to do it right or pass. I realize that it's the rider's choice to find another torch holder. Andy.