Originally Posted by
Lenton58
This is off-topic, but sorry ... I just can't resist!
Back to bicycles: I have seen Sendai's only frame builder repair crashed keirin bikes — like Nagasawa. He sweats out the bent tubes and brazes in new Kasei steel and then aligns the frame. Is it a Nagasawa? It may be a moot point, but there is a cutting edge in the question. My answer is 'yes' ... a
repaired Nagasawa.
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I'm certainly glad you couldn't resist. You have made some points which are very relevant and, therefore, not moot, to "restoration" of bicycles (and "restorations" in general). The ideas are relevant to the OP and aren't really off topic.
w.r.t. to the "
repaired Nagasawa". It is at this time a repaired Nagasawa and always will be, from this time forward, a repaired Nagasawa, but once was a Nagasawa. This gives it the characteristic of "attribution" - you can never take away the fact that it once was a Nagasawa. It is not a "replica" Nagasawa. It is not a Nagasawa. It is a "repaired Nagasawa". And it is a "was a Nagasawa". (Can you believe I just wrote this stuff?) One does not confer "attribution" on an object, it is and always will be.
Looking at the OP - it was a '68 Mustang and always will be a "was a '68 Mustang". Not a Shelby.
Originally Posted by
rjhammett
I have seen enough threads on this site with questions of authenticity of frames/bikes people are considering buying. Even if you sell a replica and are completely honest about it the next guy may not be as honest when they sell it. I don't like the potential of people getting ripped off. Forum members are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to bikes unlike much of the general public.
Originally Posted by
xiaoman1
+1 My thoughts exactly....but as they say buyer beware and be armed with knowledge about what you are buying and even then you can get stung!

Regards, Ben
You can not control what others do, but you
can control what you do.
“... The presence and extent of any restoration or reconstruction must be detectable, though they need not be conspicuous.”
This is part of the definition of "restoration" taken from a guideline for professional conservators. If the work you have done is detectable it is a clue to someone else that a restoration has been done. Soooo, fer example, touch-up paint should be a slightly different colour - not too hard if your color perception is as bad as mine, repro decals should not be exact, a repro headbadge should be used on a Cinelli missing the original instead of an original bought on Flea-B and so on. Or, you could leave post-it notes everywhere (see Herse, Carlton). In summary, the work should be obvious, but not stick out like a sore thumb. And the work requires documentation. This kind of "restoration" will help in reducing fraud, but won't eliminate it.
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