Originally Posted by snow_echo_NY

i haven't looked at butterfly or trekking bars. i'm not sure what north road style bars are. damn i just know flat bars and drop bars and that's it! okay off to google...

yeah concern trolling sucks. annoying! luckily it doesn't happen to me too often.

don't knock your commute. i have a short commute 4.5-5.2 miles each way so i ride roughly ~10 miles a day? i do it every workday now. i think it's far better than having a long commute and not bike-commuting some of the days. i've become a stronger rider and often look to do rides, but it's hard to grab an hour of leisure everyday. oh well. you only have so much time in the day.

Originally Posted by snow_echo_NY

i finally found casual tops and bottoms for cycling women: terry bike clothing for women. it's ridiculously expensive so i will have to peruse the sale section. but just a relaxed fit and relaxed look. some of the women in a local bike forum suggested jersey dresses on top of leggings or capri-leggings. basically nothing to constrict you like pants, waistband, etc. i'm using these women's high waisted cargo pants and they're breathable, but not that comfortable.

otherwise, the other name brands you guys suggested - thanks, but again the style and looks are limited, look semi-technical, and most of them can be found at REI so i will probably go visit the local REI and see if i can find anything. otherwise these are also expensive ($80 for a tank top? i can sew something like that and just buy tech fabric at one of the many fabric stores in NYC and pay much less).

in any case - definitely posting for other women on this forum who might want to look like normal people while riding a bike instead of a racer or whatever. something that translates to dutch-style and getting on and off your bike going to work and back and around town.