i'm not getting a clipless set up this much i know -

but i do like foot retention in my toe clips with straps. they're pretty much toe gates. they're terribly floppy now since i got them 4 years ago, so less responsive than what i would like.

i just got chrome kursks shoes and wow what a difference from my running trainers. they're stiff/responsive and they're comfortable.

so talk to me about stiff toe clips that are strapless ( i don't like having to tighten them, and never do, i leave them super loose ) - what have you tried and liked? what do you use (if you use this set up)? thanks for all the thoughts in advance...