Yeah, i thought i did ok on hills until this weekend. I went out for a 60mile ride with one of the local clubs and we rode from Kunia (walmart)to Dilingham airfield and back, with a climb up kolekole pass each way. (i know that won't mean much to 98% of you guys) I was devistated. I was so far behind everyone. It made me rethink all the routes i normally ride. From now on, im taking the hilly way, every time. Oh and im buying a compact crank!