Hey fellas,

I'd like to hear your opinions on the integrated vs. non-integrated debate. I'm about te have a custom bike polo frame built and the builders only offer an integrated seat-post clamp. Polo is really hard on frames, lots of endo's and wheely turns and hoping and colliding and crashing. I feel that an integrated clamp is a real bad idea.

The builders have made about 200 frames now, the oldest of them being about 2 or 3 years old and there have been no clamp failures yet. However, many players have complained about seat-posts spinning about, forcing them to add coke-can shims to keep them in place. the builders claim that this was a seat tube diameter issue and that it has been resolved.

I've asked them if they could build me a frame with a non-integrated clamp to which they responded "for now no alternatives to the integrated seat clamp" This seems silly, It's not like it's harder to build right?