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Old 05-20-15, 04:51 PM
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mack_turtle
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indeed, that first spreadsheet was awful, but helped me understand the relationship between stack and reach by showing me how those two measurements are not related. my later calculations involved drawing a lot of triangles and applying trig. the conclusion that I reached is that two bikes with the same ETT or the same reach will not really fit the same if they have a different stack. the DC has a much shorter stack, so I hypothetically raised the stack to the same size as the Vaya and applied trig to the head tube angle to see what the effective reach is as a result. that leads me to believe that the both frames in 54cm are effectively the same size, even though the posted reach and ETT are different. I could draw you all some triangles to prove how i got this, but just trust that I figured that out.

so I feel confident that I can get the right frame size that way, but that does not mean that the DC is going to suit me better. I will have to take everything mentioned here into account before I do anything. One of my coworkers has been lusting after an orange Vaya for years, which is what I have, and wants to buy it from me, which would give me most of the funds to get a Soma instead. the question is- would I benefit from a bike with a higher BB, shorter CS, shorter HT, and probably slightly less weight. I might end up with a tall stem and/or a lot of spacers to get it comfortable.

I had a Pake C'mute previously, which has geo closer to the DC but with linear pull brakes and barcons. I didn't care for those two features and it was more cost-effective for me to sell the Pake and buy this Vaya than try to upgrade the Pake. The C'mute is an awesome bike though, I recommend it for a low-cost all-rounder!

I am definitely going to put some lighter tires on for my next long ride. I use the Tour Rides for commuting to work because I believe they are the least likely tire to get flats on and make me late. 32mm Paselas are at the top of my list for that role.

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